Deserves no response.

im in no mood for the flaming that probably will go down here - so  i thought i would drop in to say that your attempt is brave - but unlikely to get a positive response.

This woould be pure crap if it weren't so shitty.

pass the word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBfngOsvm A0

Do you really want to go there?

Explain to me what Lady de Rothschild is doing as Hillary Clinton's agent on the platform committee?  This is the same person who goes on Fox all the time talking about how she and her donor friends are taking their ball and going home this year, making Democrats look, among other things, like rich pricks who flirt with McCain.

On the other hand, Obama used a sentence with the words "get over it" in them.  Shit damn, let's all get the vapors.

Shame mojo for the catfish.

I mean, the whole quote is pretty bad, really.  But at this point, I'm willing to just wait and let it all play out.  All of the people involved are better than their worst moments would suggest.

Obama simply pointed out that a comparison of his and McCain's respective positions would help Hillary supporters get over their disappointment.  It was not a command to "get over it".  

Fixating on those three words out of context is no better than fixating on, I don't know, maybe "... as far as I know."

I would wait until the convention to judge, though I appreciate the article from mid-June.  If I recall correctly, Obama's keynote speech was not even the most prominently televised speech that night - the most prominent speaker was Theresa Heinz Kerry.

You just said "get over it".  Shame on you.

What was wrong with the old one(s)?

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Sparks Fly at Black Caucus Meeting
Just What Was Said Between the Presumptive Democratic Nominee and Clinton-Supporting Congresswoman?
By JAKE TAPPER and KATE SNOW
June 20, 2008

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What are you doing?

Wow. A single quote from June 20 that ignores the entire context and cites one source. Exactly the kind of diary to write on August 13.

I think taking that in a "Get Over it!" kind of way is to take it in a way that it wasn't intended.

He wasn't saying "Hillary lost.  Get over it."

He was acknowledging that there is some conflict there, obviously born of one candidate having to lose, but that anyone who really looks over the issues should be able to overcome the echo of any primary season animosity.

I agree that the phrase "get over it" can have a forceful, dismissive connotation, but it doesn't have to be that way.  I just don't see the negativity of it, in this instance.  Seems as though the article and Rep. Watson are trying to create a wedge by misinterpreting the tone and message of what Obama was saying.

efforts by the three main participants.

Big Dog: F, I'm not sure how he let himself get trapped by Kate Snow into a "provocative" interview.

Obama: C-/D+, 1) it really sounds as if he's done nothing for her debt beyond going through the motions (neither has McCain for Guiliani but Obama is supposed to be the standup guy afterall), 2) hasn't appeared publicly or even met in person with Big Dog whereas McCain appeared with Bush within days of securing his nomination, 3) the keynote/headliner distinction sounds small but sometimes the small things matter (this is coming from a Warner groupie), 4) from the way it is being reported by the media, it sounds as if he's been lying publicly about HRC being on his shortlist for VP.

HRC: B+, it would have been an A but I don't see the benefit in going public when she knew someone was recording, with her frustration with Obama is a good thing, unless Obama was completely ignoring her calls or just giving her the run-around in their conversations.  However, I'm not sold on the benefit of submitting her name into nomination.

"it really sounds as if he's done nothing for her debt beyond going through the motions"

What else can he do but go through motions in her behalf -- alienate his own donors by leaning on them to bail her out?

Also, have Hillary's donors come through for Obama, or has she also just gone "through the motions" to help the nominee of her party defeat the GOP candidate?

Hillary can have a fundraiser or two after the election and retire
HER OWN debt. Right now winning the WH is what every Real Democrat should want above all else.

Today on HuffPo a most intelligent post nailed evangelicals for the self-absorbed, "my way or the highway," anti-community zealots they are. Substitute "Hillary wingnuts" for "evangelicals" and you're looking at yourself in the mirror. No one stole anything, no one is trashing your candidate, and no "statement" is appropriate - she just lost. I wish George McGovern had defeated Richard Nixon, but amazing as it may seem to you I've let it go. You should too.

What you didn't mention:

Some in the room weren't offended a bit, as female Clinton supporters

We wasn't telling anyone to "get over it"

THE ARTICLE IS FROM LATE JUNE!

I would respond on the merits, but this piece isn't worth my time.

I have to admit I'm really baffled by this diary.  Catfish or Engels I could see doing this, but not this diarist.

I thought of doing the inverse: reporting on Hillary Clinton saying that she was going to be keeping all options open going into the convention, regardless of the fact that that quote would be in June.  But then I realized that a flame war would be inevitable, even if I made it incredibly clear that I was mocking this diary.

A flame war would be inevitable.  Which is why I don't understand this at all.  This is like when linfar went berzerk and decided that her new mission was to convince everyone that Barack Obama had leaked his own prayer, no matter how thoroughly debunked and newsmaxed it was.

you guys fail to get her elected THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY!!!!!

We plan on protesting every Democratic event from then on out.  We plan on voting for Republicans just to teach all you Dems a lesson.  

YOU WILL DO WHAT WE WANT, AND IF WE DON"T GET OUT WAY, WE"LL IT"LL BE PARTY UNITY MY BUTTOCKS!!

Guys.  Life is unfair.  You win some, you lose some.  When you get so obsessed that it takes over your life, sanity, and makes you vote against your self interest just for vengeance, well, you need help.

Not everyone in this world can get that pony.  Most normal people, once realizing said pony never arrives, don't start hanging out with racists (noquarter), tearing down the only party that is trying to make America better, and ruining everything their losing candidate stood for (ala voting McCain.

Get your priorities straight.  This isn't about you.  You vote against the troops, you vote against stem cells, you vote against woman's rights, you vote against constitutional rights, and you become the worst hypocrite imaginable just to say you avenged a golden calf.

and I understand exactly why you wrote this diary. I can't rec it though, because I don't think it will do anything to help us elect Obama (though it probably won't hurt him either), and  my fear of McCain is such that doing everything possible to help elect Obama is one of the top issues on my mind at this point.

But I laud you for your bravery. Good luck with the flame war.

Just a few things...

1.  This quote is paraphrased by the delegate who got upset.

According to Rep. Yvette Clarke, D-N.Y., Obama then said, "However, I need to make a decision in the next few months as to how I manage that since I'm running against John McCain, which takes a lot of time. If women take a moment to realize that on every issue important to women, John McCain is not in their corner, that would help them get over it."

Do we have the exact quote?

2.  

The public embrace of Clinton has been sorely lacking; minus one major national unity event, Barack Obama has avoided public appearances or media events with Hillary Clinton.

I could very easily argue that it is Bill and Hillary who have avoided public appearances with Obama.  Where's the proof?

3.  

But I think it's fair to say that I've been extremely dissapointed in Obama so far; after the soaring rhetoric of his race on speech has refused to criticize or acknowledge the sexism displayed towards Hillary Clinton during the primary.

I would argue that HRC is the person who should give the speech on sexism (she may at the convention).  Having Obama do it would be like HRC giving a speech on racism, it would come off as phony.

Can someone please tell me why this is relevant two months after the fact?  

June 20th?

I would hope you were misled on the date otherwise I don't see the point of this diary.

old news?  

yawn!

We have an election to win and we need to focus our time and energy on just that.    

And that deserves a diary like this.  At least this one doesn't say "Cross-posted from Clintonistas for Obama."  I bet the seismographs at Cal Tech picked up the snap from this diary.

I hope that the Senator understands that he may get our votes, but the more distancing himself he does; the easier it is for myself and many Clinton supporters to find other things to donate too and local races to work on, rather than work on a campaign that doesn't seem too wild about reaching out to us.

This sounds an awful lot like what Hillary Clinton (Amy Poehler) said on SNL about why she should be the nominee and not Obama:

Hillary Clinton:  If, on the other hand, Senator Obama is chosen I will probably refuse to campaign for him. Or if I do so, it will be in a resentful, half-hearted way, thus ensuring his defeat so I that I can run again in 2012. You see, unlike my opponent, I'm just not going to lose gracefully. It's not a criticism of Senator Obama. It's just a fact.

ZC, get over it.  No, really.  Here's why...  The nomination battle is over.  Your resentful tightly-clenched vote isn't so important that it's worth the aggravation.  If it galls you so much to vote for Hillary, please... PLEASE vote for somebody else!  I don't want to see you in a bell tower someday with a .30'06 and a scope, mumbling about how Obama is unworthy of your vote.  And, please, start taking drugs, lots of drugs.  I would ordinarly prescribe Lexapro, but in your case, maybe Zyprexa.

He will get us out of Iraq and stop the torture chambers, while guys like you kvetch for eight years about your hurt feelings about the tiniest most trivial details.

If people spent as much time working to get a Democrat elected as they do trying to find something to be upset about we'd have nothing to worry about.

This is what we've come to - getting upset about a phrase out of a sentence from a second hand source that occured in June.

OMG,

Would you guys get over yourselves...

What exactly in the hell do you guys want? Enumerate  what Clinton supporters want?

If you want her on the ticket it is not going to happen... so what do you want!

Obama didn't say "Get Over It" in the sense that you all are extrapolating.

BUT.... I WILL SAY IT....

GET THE FUCK OVER IT...

YOU LOST THE NOMINATION BECAUSE YOUR CANDIDATE RAN A HORRIBLE, SLIP SHOD, AND DISORGANIZED CAMPAIGN! ALL OF THIS HAPPENED WHILE RUNNING AGAINST A CANDIDATE AND A CAMPAIGN THAT WAS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THAT.

TO COUNTER THE FACT SHE LOST... SHE BLAMED THE LOSS ON SEXISM. BULLSHIT.

OBAMA PLAYED NICE WITH CLINTON THE LAST 2 MONTHS OF THE CAMPAIGN!

SO I WILL SAY IT...

GET THE FUCK OVER IT! SHE LOST THE NOMINATION.....

GET OVER IT!

of the so-called clintonistas.  only howard dean had the grace and foresight to organize his supporters behind the nominee.  your interest in other races -- minus the constant public whining -- is natural.  it is what the ardent supporters of the losers always do (if they don't drop out of politics altogether) after hotly contested primaries.

i'm sorry your nominee lost (well, sorry you are taking it so hard).  democracy is like that.  fortunately, most democrats weren't ardent supporters of either candidate, and their numbers not only will make up for the anguished supporters of the losing candidate, but will far exceed the supporters of all primary candidates put together!

the thing you must come to terms with is, if you are allowed to feel this way (and you are), then why shouldn't progressives and especially african-american democrats hold their grudges against hillary over time?  if you believe that black voters should "get over" their disgust and anger at the clinton campaign's demeaning and insensitive comments about black democrats, then you should get over your own anger.  but i think we can all agree that both you and progressives/black democrats have a right to hold on to your anger.  not that there's anything wrong with that...

the Obama campaign are acting like pricks as are his supporters but what else is new around here. Unfortunetly he does not have the balls or the smarts to bring this party together or he would have already done so. Clinton dems are being shown the door. Obama will loose this election because he's selfish and arrogant and obviously knows not how to be magnamous.

and the court lurches further to the right.

I'll thank you.